Howie:
T 99 Lake. Good morning, on this optimistic Tuesday. We’re looking forward to getting a call any moment from our Tuesday regular Buddy <laugh> that’s testing Cody, Cody Bass. I should mix ’em all up. Hey, we’re gonna be chatting with Cody emer in just a bit, and then talk with Buddy Zaney in the next hour here on an optimistic Tuesday. I think Cody’s been outta town, man. I think I, I was looking at one of his posts. He was up in Humboldt and then he was in Santa Cruz. The places where we, I guess is parallel. Let’s see, Santa Cruz, Humboldt, and where was the other place you were? Oh, Tahoe, the trifecta, right. Cody.
Cody:
That’s the golden triangle, man. There’s more in that triangle than, than anywhere else in the world, in my opinion, or more things that I like. Yeah, maybe it’s not, maybe not all of us are the same, but there’s a lot when you look between that triangle, I consider I could go with the triangle,
Howie:
Man. Every time you make a trip up there. I always think of a performing at the Casper Inn halfway between Mendocino and Fort Bragg, and man, they, that was the area that I remember even back then when I was going to Humbolt. They, they had a lot of places out there growing the magic stuff, you know?
Cody:
Yeah, no, most definitely. I mean, the coast all the way to Inland Mendocino all the way up through Humboldt, Trinity County. Yeah. You know, they call that the Emerald Triangle. Oh. Which is really the the, the kind of, I would say the world’s capital of cannabis production or, or cultivation and, you know, still is. But it’s definitely gone through some challenges over the last, I’d say, really more or less the last five years due to just a lot of the new laws and regulations and yeah. That’s always the y Yeah. But, you know, it, it never existed there because of the law. And so I, I kind of remind people well, well, it existed there mainly because it was really outlawed. However, it is the best place on the planet to, to grow cannabis and, and not only cannabis, I mean, Southern Mendocino, some of the best wine Alexander Valley, and then of course you get into Sonoma County, Napa County. Mm-Hmm. and, and yeah, I mean, there’s, there’s so much up there, but the coast, I cannot believe how he Casper in that. That is one of gorgeous, I would say one of the most coolest kind of ends in California in a way. I mean, it’s that town in all of those towns along that coastline. I mean, I’ve been going up there 25 years. They haven’t changed a bit. I mean, it’s the same place it must have been from a hundred years ago,
Howie:
Man. Did you ever spend, I’m sure you have. I used to spend a lot of time up in Shelter Cove. That was such a gorgeous getaway up there, right on the coast. Huge Cliff. I don’t think there’s any home. There might be homes there now, but I used to, I used to retreat the Shelter Cove south of I think it might be near not. No, it was, I think it was north of Garberville, you know, Garberville
Cody:
Something. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. You go Garberville then through Redway and then Shelter Cove. Yeah, that’s, and there’s that amazing White House out there. Oh the, that’s the beginning. Black Beach, all those black pebbles and, and the beginning of the Lost Coast Trail, which is one of the coolest there’s actually old growth redwoods literally coming out of the Right. The sand and out of the beach. Of course. It’s, it’s unbelievable.
Howie:
It’s so cool. You know what everybody, you know, you talk about you know, people that are working from home and whatnot, and the pandemic and all that. People I knew people when I was going to Humboldt State they were working from home before it became a thing. I mean, they were literally growing a lot of the good things in their greenhouses, but they had to put some type of cover over the greenhouses when the feds would fly over the helicopters and use their kinda like, I don’t know, Sonic Rays to try to determine, Hey, I think that guy’s growing pot. Those aren’t tomato plants, you
Cody:
Know? Yeah, most definitely. I mean, the thing is, is then in those days, and it, and it really goes all the way back to like the beat mix of San Francisco going north, you know, not only to save the redwood trees, but a part of the kind of environmentalism and activism of, of really moving and being one with the land and mm-hmm. <Affirmative> and, and cannabis, I mean, in the forties is kind of become, you know, back outta World War II and the, the Rage against Cannabis is back on. And and, and a group of those guys went up really to Shelter Cove into that area. And from that, through the sixties and seventies, made an entire kind of society, an underground society of people that produced, you know, literally hundreds of thousands of pounds of cannabis through the, the war on drugs, you know, I mean, 73 Reagan, oh yeah. Excuse me. Nixon declares a war on drugs, and they literally put billions of dollars in a, in a warfare against our own people up in the Emerald Triangle. And I mean it, you know destroyed families brought on major levels of, of depression and drug addiction. I mean, because you would build something and build your whole place, and then helicopters would come and take everything you own.
Howie:
Yeah, it always did. The, yeah. It was always, you, you know, you know what I missed personally and I think there was a, there was a there was a concentrated effort to try to make it work. It wasn’t that long ago a business of trade. I remember being part and actually being in a publication where you would go through, by chapters what each services were. Let’s just say you had like plumbing and construction, and someone would do like public relations, and there used to be and you were assigned so many points for what you could do, but you would actually trade. There was no money exchanged. There was no i r s involved in you, just, you dere something. You traded with somebody for a service, goods or services. And for a while I thought, man, that was like the perfect utopia. You know? If you could, if you could just get a bank to go, Hey, I, I’m trying to rent this place and here’s a couple of pounds a weed that should be good for at least take me through the summer, maybe, you know, and then it Yeah. You know, just kind. I, I remember lawyers.
Cody:
Yeah. Did work, man. I, I think it, I mean, it still does, you know, barter is the best way barter. Yeah. And and it’s not taxable. I mean, our but you know, there, there’s maybe arguments to that on both sides. Yeah. But our services are definitely tradable without being Exactly. Without being taxed. And it should be, I mean, why shouldn’t we be able to give our skills to one another without the government telling us we owe a dollar for there’s
Howie:
Fear in it. Yeah. I, man, and, and, and it was interesting because and I saw it firsthand. There were some pretty big lawyers up in Arcata and their clients would trade cannabis right there for whatever. They were probably being sued because of cannabis. And ironically, the lawyers were taking the cannabis for barter to help defend that his client. And, but a lot of that was going on. It was kind of cool. And there were a lot of awesome gardens that were grown up there, you know, and a lot of like, it was like, almost like one of those victory gardens of World War ii and people would give vegetables and everything and trade survey, man. I know, I, I’m such a, a naive optimist, but it is Tuesday, so I’m going there.
Cody:
Aha. <laugh>. It’s nice. It’s well, and it’s so good, man. It’s so interesting when I kind of, when I was 18 and, and before nine 11 and I just kind of broke into the, you know, that world, I was only 18 years old, but I, I got up to Laytonville and Garberville in that area, and back then it was wild. You’d still wear camouflage in the hills and the, the helicopters are still out, but that an ounce of gold was right at about 300 bucks. Wow. And an ounce of pot that’s crazy at the time was about 350 bucks <laugh>. And so you could imagine the difference in and why that trade would be worth more Yeah. Than even money. And so there was a lot of trade that happened through cannabis and and which was also good because again, we’ve talked about it on the optimistic Tuesdays before of how much it brings people together from different walks of life. Exactly. Yeah. From different, you know, all different sects of, of human people, cannabis brings them together. So yeah, once, once you’re at a place and you realize, whoa, I could use the green blood pass. Oh wow. I’m gonna get to know that guy. Yeah. And it was such a cool thing.
Howie:
I, and you know what? You got to know your neighbors better and you relied on them when they were either growing something and you maybe didn’t have that good of a, of a green thumb. You couldn’t produce anything. And I, I mean, I can’t tell you how many times I did shows, just bartering for different things. What really came in handy as a college student getting food and al also getting some weeded. And I go, this is definitely gonna help offset my tuition, that’s for sure.
Cody:
<Laugh>. Yes, definitely. I can’t imagine how many college kids made it through on the Green Pass, you know, it was just Yeah. Oh yeah. All the things.
Howie:
It was, man, and you know, in a way, I, I, it’s kind of funny in a way that Tahoe, when I first came up here, maybe not so much now, but I like to think so deep down inside Tahoe reminds me of, of, of, of a like Humboldt or Santa Cruz in a way, without all the, you know, the, the, you know, the, the hate and all that and everything, but just, just the environment. And there’s, there’s still a lot of cool souls up here. You know, you have to kind of search to really find them. But I, I think it tend to attract the cool souls and you have to get rid of the negativity ones. Hey, you guys, you, you just go over there or move to a city. Yes. Go to LA ’cause there’s enough hate down there. And leave Tahoe to be kind of in a, a mellow, kind of a zen place. And, and we will just work from there. You know?
Cody:
I couldn’t agree more, Howie, I tell you, man, it, I, you know, when I got here in 1998, it, it really had, it did have a, a different energy. So many people were, it was kind of like, look where we live. Yeah. You know, this is the best place on the earth. How could you ever be upset? And then how couldn’t you really, you know, give a good vibe to somebody that’s visiting Lake Tahoe, whether they’re a tourist or a local. And, and one of our issues, I think more than anything is we have, we have people, in my opinion that think they’re like entitled. Like, this is only theirs. And it’s like, no, this is Tahoe and we’re in America and this is really for everybody. Now if we’re real locals, we figure out how do we, how do we deal with the amount of people that are gonna come here this weekend?
And how do we manage it well, and how do we make the experience good instead of let’s scare these people outta here and make ’em try to never come back. I mean, it’s, and it’s kind of gotten to those two extremes. It’s, it’s real interesting. I know I missed you at celebrity golf. I try. I was only there for a minute. I tried to find you, but Oh yeah, yeah, of course. I know you’ve got all the, you’ve got all the real guys there. But it, it was real interesting with you know, July 4th and, and kind of watching that, and of course, you know, we saw all the media with trash on the beach and really big issues that we need to address. Yeah. But then too, the following week, the celebrity golf and, I don’t know, 60, 70,000 people coming through, you know, a, what is it, probably 60 acre golf course or something like that.
Right. And not a piece of trash anywhere, not a person having a bad time transportation. Yeah. We have traffic like we do in July. Yeah. But buses in and out managed very well. And what it proves is that if we put our mind together, we work together, we can host people here, and I mean, look, the most talented folks in the world, like in one place, and everybody’s having a good time. And so it really is about approach and management of, of people. And, and it’s not like we’re gonna try to manage people, but we manage our, our destination, our experience, and our, and we really put our mind together. And then, as you just said, take these haters and I don’t know where, take them to LA That’s a great idea. <Laugh>, we should do like the guy, the Florida guy that’s fussing them all to wherever. I, I dunno, I didn’t say that, but I know I’m ready. Round them up. Let’s I mean, maybe we can get the parks to like hurt them across the Fresno or something. I don’t know. No,
Howie:
No. The play devil’s advocate now, now at Edgewood, they were very strict about what you brought in. You had to have a clear, you know, backpack so you could see all the stuff. And there wasn’t a whole lot of beach. ’cause The water had moved so much up to everybody was in their boats. But, but there was more, you know, obviously security. I mean, ’cause think about it, you’re being televised on N B C. You don’t wanna see what the beach looked like for the Zephyr Cove over the 4th of July on national television. But I’m glad the media did cover that. At least put it out there with a, and I, and I tend to turn into a real cynical bastard. I wanted to take photos of people trashing it, put it on billboards, and just shame the crap out of them. You know? And but then, well, you gotta try a nicer approach. Maybe when people come up, give them a joint or something, or an edible, I don’t know.
Cody:
Yes. Well, and I can’t agree more. I mean, you know, again, it’s about managing, you know? Yes. We need to call them out. Yes. We need to have people out there enforcing and writing tickets. But the fact is, we haven’t really managed the 4th of July thing ever. We’ve just kind of shot fireworks off a barge free for all on every beach. Every beach kind of does a little different thing. Some people to do nothing’s Yeah. And have no trash receptacles, others, no garbage. Like the one in next to my house was, was pretty dang clean. ’cause There was receptacles everywhere. And, and it, and it was managed decently well. So again, I think it’s just, we got to, you know, the examples to me are like, look at what it can be if we come together and, and do something. Right. But yeah, you’re right. I mean, the entire Douglas County Sheriff’s Department is in full effect at Edgewood. And that, that’s obviously, but again, it’s managing of 70,000 people. It’s doable is my point. You know,
Howie:
I think we should address people up as two of my favorite horror movies predator and Alien is those. And then just why have ’em walk around and go, are you better pick that up, you know, something like that. And just,
Cody:
That is a great idea. And that’s, I mean, hey, maybe we don’t have to drive him to Fresno. We just dress them up. <Laugh>. We’ll have to make like a big costume, a costume barn, and oh God. I can only imagine a few of ’em in the costume. I’m gonna put on ’em. It’ll be so good
Howie:
That Yeah. And I’ll be the first one to dress up as predator man. Hey, I can’t see him, but his eyes, his eyes just flash red, you know, something like that, you know,
Cody:
<Laugh>. Yeah.
Howie:
Like, hey, so what should we know about God? I love going off on these great philosophical chats that revolving around stuff that makes you feel mellowed out. So, so tell me some of the stuff you’ve got coming up and more importantly, any speakers lined up on the horizon.
Cody:
Yeah. You know, so we we actually, right now we’ve got any of our t h c Rosins and you get a select Rosin for a buck. Nice. We’ve got buy a Bright Lab, which Bright Labs is one of the producers out of the Bay Area. Really great producer. So you can buy a Bright Lab turnover and you get a gram of sugar, 50% off. Oh, nice. Ember Valley, who was actually, who won our cannabis cup last year. Oh, right, right,
Howie:
Right, right.
Cody:
They’re a really great brand. They grow mainly all flowers and, and some very cool pre, pre-rolls. So we’ve got buy a Doub or glitter, and you get a bomb ape and a gram for a buck. So that’s, that’s a really, really great deal. Wow. Yeah. And so yeah, some amazing deals that, that are coming up. And then as far as our demos, you know, it has been a little more difficult actually for us to get demos over the last month or so. But we, we are working on it. We definitely will be able to announce some, hopefully in the next week. I think what it is, you know, we’re seeing the cannabis industry go through some, some struggles in a way. And, and I’ve explained before some of those things. But anyways, we’re, we’re seeing brands, you know, somewhat you know, cut costs in different areas so that they’re able to keep their head above water.
And so I think that’s what we’re seeing. But we will, we’ve got an amazing new space. Anybody that hasn’t been in to see the mural that was painted by Mural one that was the same artist that did the murals on the outside Yeah. To get a mural on the inside Sweet. That he actually did with all paintbrushes. That is phenomenal. And we’ve also got one of his original pieces of art that’s up on the wall. That’s just unbelievable. So yeah, even if you’re not coming for cannabis, come see the artwork. Nice. and soon we hope that the lounge introduce our lounge. Yeah, that’s, and so we’re, we’re working hard and things are good, man.
Howie:
You know what? And I, I do have to say this is your city council hat on just for a moment. I love the headline in the I posted, if you get a chance to check it out, I, I was just teasing. It said The city of South Lake Tahoe is gonna start rehabilitating roadways, you know, and I saw, oh man, I just love that. I go, even roads have mental health issues. They’re being rehabilitated. They’re, they’re no longer just paved anymore. ’cause That sounds too harsh.
Cody:
Yeah, exactly. Gotta be correct. Right. You gotta be nice to the asphalt. Yeah,
Howie:
You gotta be, it’s because it’s not the a’s fault that it has to be rehabilitated <laugh>.
Cody:
That’s right. Oh, I love it.
Howie:
Hey man, I, you know, you gotta take off, but I, I’ll drop by and surprise you ’cause I just love hanging out down there. And let’s, oh man, let’s do this again real soon. And don’t let any naysayers ever try to drag you down. If you ever feel like it’s getting to be too much, just give me a holler and I’ll let it go to voicemail <laugh>.
Cody:
All right. So <laugh>, there you go. Sounds good, Howie. Alright buddy. Naysay never give me. Alright buddy, have a good day. Love you
Howie:
Buddy. <Laugh>.
Cody:
Love you too. Peace.
